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brotherjoe posted an update in the group National News 5 months ago
Fox news coverage was entire but Im sure the hit and run media will only parse words and cover protests but the speach was right on the mark. But to go further a properly trained teacher or pincipal or janitor who is willing and checked out by the school with a well thought out response to the possibilities each school presents would result in a more unasailable defence.Maybe when the shots are fired as the next crazy tries the principle or other agreed person assigned their area or closing on the other area as the bravery of the unarmed has shown, maybe the bravery would have a better outcome if the respondant has the ability to shoot dead or render harmless the threat. And further maybe with the knoledge of the arming of security personel visable by the kids and invisable (not all cards should be visable so a perp cant plan to get the drop on the defence) would result in schools not being veiwed by crazies as a duck shoot and passed for an easier unarmed target.

Brotherjoe, did you mean something like this? First off, let me state this is definitely NOT about Gun Regulations or Gun Bans etc. It is about finding a workable and efficient way, to lower the possibility of having such an occurrence happen again, making it safer for Teachers and Children. Since the Emotional Rhetoric in Washington seems to be centered on The tool used in the tragedy, instead of on how to immediately respond to, and correct the known vulnerability of schools around the Nation. Let me offer this possible solution. This can be implemented and fully functional within a week of it becoming Law, provided there is enough political resolve to actually create something that lessens the known threats. The National Paradigm has shifted. Here is a set of alternative measures, which will substantially reduce the risk; 1. Make it mandatory that all teachers receive specific intruder defense training, specific to their individual School Conditions and layout, so their reactions will conform to a workable standard, and be effective should they be called to use them. 2. Training all teachers in the proficient use of Tasers and Spray Devices, requiring all teachers to have them on their person, and ready for use. This would be a work for point/classroom defense, it would give the Teachers, Students, and Staff, a fighting chance to survive until the perpetrator could be permanently subdued. It would also prevent the same Brave but Futile Sacrifice, the Principal and School Psychologist made. Unfortunately that Brave Sacrifice did not save the children, because they did not have means to resist the attacker. 3. Mandate a standardized alert system in all schools with panic buttons, to alert the Teachers, Students, Staff, and Authorities, a dangerous unauthorized intruder is present, and to enact defense protocols until the all clear is sounded. These protocols could be simply locking classroom doors, moving the students to a safer position in the room away from the entry, and having the teachers take up a defensive position where they could disable anyone who came in with a Taser. If a second person came in they could pepper spray and disorient the attacker/s long enough to kick away any arms that they might be carrying until they could be permanently subdued. 4. This is critical since Police Response takes time, and an attacker won’t always come in during classes; I suggest that a Few Volunteers from the school staff, who are able and capable Physically, Mentally, and Psychologically, be given training, and be made special Deputies for their School district. Then they can be armed at the schools, and can stop/hold anyone if the situation requires. NOTE I do not believe that all teachers should be armed. I do Advocate all of them have NON-LETHAL DEVICES.
Remember the Tasers and Spray devices are ’NOT’ Lethal Weapons, but would provide a first line of defense that would save lives until the Volunteer Staff or the Regular Police arrive on the scene to end the threat.
Most of it and is more precisely worded than what I wrote but I favor a gun in authrized hands and training and preparidness for what situations may occur and I favor a gun or two or three and possibly development of a national strategy but that is scary since the government would likely expand a new government run agency to achieve it. Id rather put it to the individual school boards and parents mostly parents. Also I,m pretty sure if you check you might find these items are present(tazers and spray) in possesion of teachers who teach upper grades.(I,m guessing so check that if you can and have time)
brotherjoe, you must have missed this part of my post, and Jerry has good ideas about the doors too.; 4. This is critical since Police Response takes time, and an attacker won’t always come in during classes; I suggest that a Few Volunteers from the school staff, who are able and capable Physically, Mentally, and Psychologically, be given training, and be made special Deputies for their School district. Then they can be armed at the schools, and can stop/hold anyone if the situation requires. NOTE I do not believe that all teachers should be armed. I do Advocate all of them have NON-LETHAL DEVICES.
No Jerry, not brick up, ballistic plastic is clear and cheap. Besides these things are stop gap measures to have some sort of defense.In Chicago in 1958 92 kids and three teachers were killed when a disturbed student set fire to the school. in 1927 a former school board member set three bombs at three schools, and killed 45. When you have a twisted SOB Bent on killing, it doesn’t matter which method is used dead is dead. My Idea is to give them a fighting chance that is better than the ZERO chance they now have.