January 19, 2013 at 4:20 pm in News by Tea Party Patriots 8 Comments
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loon said on January 19, 2013
The only caveat to that point is that Washington thinks my means are its means. Taxed Enough Already.
Kristene said on January 19, 2013
So fiscal responsibility is the only issue that you blog about here. So disappointing. Our 2nd Amendment rights are being attacked. Where is the Tea Party Leadership? Protection of the Constitution is in your mission statement. So you can’t address more than one issue at a time? Why should I support Tea Party Patriots? Fiscal responsibility means nothing if we lose our freedom. Address both issues.
Joe Comfort said on January 20, 2013
Your claims are exagerated and unfounded. No, the 2nd Amendment is not under attack! Apparently you are unaware that automatic weapons have been banned for years; apparently you are unaware that semi-automatic weapons were banned for 10 years and would still be banned if the law didn’t contain a sunset clause; and apparently you aren;y aware of the SCOTUS holding in the Heller case in which Justice Scalia discusses the fact that the 2nd Amendment is NOT absolute and unconditional.
Secondly, no one is advocating you or anyone else losing their freedom. Nothing that has been proposed infringes on your right to own/possess fire arms or to protect yoursel, your family or your property!
loon said on January 20, 2013
Sorry Joe, I have to take up on this.
the first amendment recognizes the natural right to worship and speak the truth as we see it, also to peacefully assemble for the redress of grievance.
the second states we have a natural right to possess the ability to defend ourselves and our community.
the third establishes the primacy of a person within their home, it implies righteous ownership of the fruits of ones labor, this also contends against over taxation, as was listed among the grievances in the declaration, “quartered his subjects among us and eaten out our sustenance”.
The fourth states that the collective cannot seize the property of a citizen without due compensation, not imprisoning is not, in my mind, compensation.
The fifth concerns abuses of power, is sure seems to me that seizure of enough from the private sector to finance the wanton skullduggery we call government anymore is an abuse in principle.
The sixth is the primacy of private treaty, due to the fact the nation had no prior treaties, to contend it permits the United Nations to supersede the recognition of natural right is ludicrous.
And on we go- to assume that the 2nd amendment is safe with this bunch is foolhardy, and to trust SCOTUS is to concede that Dred Scott was legitimate. $00 thousand dead Yankees and 300 thousand dead confederates changed that opinion the hard way, I pray we don’t entrust this batch of ideologues that much again.
No ,Joe, semi autos were not, high capacity magazines and rifles with pistol grips were.as to Scalia and SCOTUS, Jefferson considered it a natural right to possess weapons and a natural right to drop thugs.
Joe Comfort said on January 21, 2013
Well, Loon, Mr Jefferson isn’t here now and we have 200 years of evolving that has occurred since his time. It is nice to know what his opinion is, it is unreasonable to analagise his comments to today’s situation.
Regardless of the specifics of what was or was not banned, the point is that the Second Amendment is not absolute and can be modified by Congressional action. As a major factor supporting Congressional action, the comment by Justice Scalia, accepted to be the most conservative Judge on the Court, would lead one to accept the fact that anything that passes congressdional muster will also pass the SCOTUS muster!
Kristene; A group of us have been, and to use the same abilities to contact our representatives on the subject matter is being used. among other rights being compromised by over educated ideologues in our government are about the entire bill of rights, we have a big job ahead, welcome aboard.
Kristene said on January 20, 2013
Loon, I have contacted my representatives, signed petitions and attended this weekends 2nd amendment rally. I would like to see the Tea Party take a more active role. Fortunately I live in Texas. The political climate for protecting the Bill of Rights is much better here than many other states.
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