Tea Party Fiscal Cliff Predictions Coming True: Government Threatens to Drag American Families over the Cliff
December 21, 2012 at 1:01 pm in News by Tea Party Patriots 28 Comments
Today, Tea Party Patriots, the nation’s largest tea party organization, issued a statement on the continuing negotiations over the so-called “fiscal cliff” crisis.
“We have predicted that a real solution to our overspending and fiscal irresponsibility wouldn’t be sought, that instead both sides would posture and play games, and that tax rates would increase for some, if not all, and it sadly appears our predictions are coming to pass,” said Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots. “Government ‘leaders ‘ appear incapable of cutting government spending, even as the American people face economic peril. We have challenged them over and over to actually do their jobs.”
The President, the House and the Senate refuse to address the actual problem of overspending, instead resorting to figuring out who can come out ahead in the polls:
· The President seems determined to raise taxes and leave entitlement spending alone when our economy needs a boost and fundamental problems need to be addressed.
· The Senate has not passed a budget in more than three years, displaying their gross inability to handle finances as American families have had to do every day.
· The House leadership, granted their majority authority by grassroots Americans in 2010 and 2012, is content to punish conservative Members for standing on principle and actually listening to their constituents. As we’ve said before, Speaker Boehner should reward those who defend fiscally responsible principles instead of insisting Members obey or else. If he led, maybe he would find the votes he needs.
“The Tea Party Patriots have dared the government to cut just one penny from each dollar the government spends – this year, next year, and for five years – to balance the budget,” said Martin. “Yet Democrats and Republicans can’t even do that.”
What will happen is we go over the cliff for 3 days then everyone comes back and gets to vote for a tax decrease on the middlke class.
G is not required to provide SS or Medicare. Cut out all the middlemen.
Kevin,
What should we do with the millions of senior citizens who paid into it and now live off it?
We couldn’t just kill them off. Their kids would get mad. Perhaps they could be moved to large camps where the church could tend to them?
cut out the middlemen
Jerry, what are you going to tell the 10′s of millions of young people who are going to have to pay far more into S.S. and Medicare than the baby boomers ever dreamed of, and who are likely to get NOTHING in return? How will they be “supported” in THEIR old age? How will they be able to save and invest for their own retirement (or even save a down payment for a house or something for their children’s education) when a very large portion of everything they are able to earn is taken from them and partly returned to the baby boomers?
Should we wait 15 years to tell everybody, finally, that S.S. is a scheme that simple can’t work?
Craig,
Social Security is solvent through 2033. If the politicans would stop spending the trust fund it would be fine.
Kevin,
What middlemen? My Social Security check is automatically deposited in my bank account each month. A doctor sees a Medicade patient and bills Medicade who pays the bill. What you smoking?
What about the almost 70,000 bureaucrats who work for the S.S.A.? How much do their salaries and benefits and retirement costs amount to?
C’mon Jerry, at least try to sound like your living in the real world.
Craig,
It’s a big program. 3 people in a garage can’t run it.
Does that mean you agree your assertion that there are no “middlemen” is misleading and wrong?
I notice you didn’t try to respond to the generation of workers who will be forced to pay for the baby boomers benefits ( “entitlements”).
Don’t you have the least bit of compassion for today’s young families and their future?
Ok, don’t.
sombody(s) in your organization needs to start thinking about practical ways to cut the Feds out of the loop. The US Govt is so large, it would be much less expensive to cut it out entirely.
So what would you cut?…. Midicare, FBI, EPA, CIA, FCC, DEA, FAA.
If we went back to taking the train we could get rid of airplanes and the FAA,
Cut anything that isn’t authorized by the Constitution Jerry.
BTW, Canada manages to have a functional system of air travel without having a government run traffic control system. They save a lot of money that way, and it works better too
Craig,
Since the only departments mentioned by name in the Consiitution are the Army and the Navy we could get rid of a lot. Of course with no Border Patrol we will soon have lots of new Mexican friends. With no NIH new virus strains would go unchecked. It might start looking like ZombieLand prety fast.
The Army used to patrol our borders when necessary to augment State organizations like the Texas Rangers and the State Police of other states.
do you really think our modern civilization s created by government and would collapse without it? Were there no advances in the field of medicine prior to the “progressive” era?
Of course there were, and there would continue to be without government subsidies and government direction.
There is in fact a lot of scholarly argument showing that government intervention slows the pace of invention and innovation. The NIH has probably done more harm than good.
Craig,
I have a real had time taking you seriously. Are you?
I mean things like “There is in fact a lot of scholarly argument showing that government intervention slows the pace of invention and innovation. The NIH has probably done more harm than good.”
NIH manages things like swine flu and west Nile virus outbreaks. Do you really want people to die from this stuff?
Fracking for natural gass extraction from shale is a government invention along with the Internet.
If you really don’t like civilization why not look into living in a wilderness area and eat roots and berries. No need for any government there!!!
Jerry,
In answer to your question, “… what would you cut?” – suggest reading Senator Tom Coburn’s plan. He takes on all the sacred cows, rankles all the special interests.
Check out Coburn’s official senate web site. Down in the lower right corner is a link to his 624 page plan, released July 2011.
It took us decades to get in this terrible fiscal hole (more of a hole caving in to bury us than falling off a cliff) and it will take time to climb out of the hole. Hence the 624 pages of the good doctor’s prescription.
What would YOU cuit?
Fair question. Here’s a small start:
First, abolish the Department of Education. That activity is not in the “enumerated powers” in the federal constitution. Education is best run by parents at the neighborhood level. More homeschooling would be a big step in the right direction.
Second, R.I.F. or reduction in force of federal workforce, say 1% immediately, then another 5% over next six months. Huge payroll savings for the taxpayers.
Third, Department of Interior – sell some of the millions of acres of land that are locked up, wasted and becoming forest fire traps. Private owners, families, could turn those into productive lands. Re-establish the old “homestead” laws to provide homes for enterprising individual citizens for our growing population. Make them into landowners who guard Liberty.
Fourth, even cut Department of Defense. Sen. Coburn identifies 300 billion in program cost overruns from 2001 thru 2008. We can do much better. National bankruptcy is a national security issue. Will Red China allow us to live comfortably if we renege on those IOUs?
Fifth – regarding Social Security – a few tweaks could help its bank accounts and not hurt people who rely on it. Such as raising the retirement age for future years. As far back as 1998 the late democratic Senator Moynihan of New York had some ideas for Social Security, not perfect but a start.
Sixth – abolish all the so-called “muslim outreach” at NASA and other agencies. (Self explanatory)
Seventh – abolish cronyism – abolish all tax credits and subsidies, etc., to corporations. This will also serve to remove market distortions, restore proper market mechanisms, strengthen the economy. Abolish favortism by regulation or by union “rules” that only kill competition.
I could go on at length. This is not complicated. The problem is the gov’t special interests and pressure groups who live off the backs of the taxpayers.
Let’s gore all the sacred cows. Equal opportunity for the “takers” to “give back” to the private sector.
NoHyphen,
Excellent post. I agree 100%. I would add the Marines and Coast Guard.
Jerry, you don’t want anything cut. You want more government.
You have no right to keep asking what others would cut unless you tell us your vision of teh future.
What do you think is the proper role of government?
Marines and Coast Guard. DEA, Commerce, NASA, all crop supports, all industry specific tax credits for starters. I’d have to add that up to see what to do next.
Government has a role in protecting us from enemies abroad and at home….. providing for the common good. Roads, bridges, airports, harbors, public health, Interstate road system, food, car and product safety, pollution control all really important and really sane stuff that private companies can’t do.
Trust me, I worked for FAA Air traffic for over 30 years. The last 12 as the manager of a major facility. I could cut the heck out of the budget if given the opportunity and the ability to undo all the bad work rules negoiated by the unions. And, following my cuts the public would never notice the difference.
Praise the GOP 13 for Courage!
It was only 13 GOP members who balked at the insane tax hikes and insane spending hikes – enough to put at least a temporary stop to the madness. It is obvious this administration has no intention of good faith negotiations to right the fiscal ship. Check out the article at American Spectator, written by Jeffrey Lord.
Therefore all we can do is stop the adminstration foolishness for the next two years, and plan to win in 2014.
People want the government to cut its own jobs, and then are upset when it doesn’t, and claim that I’m the one smoking. So long as the Fed can print with immunity, it will print, bankrupting everyone it must, to survive as long as possible.
Government will blow up; it always does. The best that can be done is have small businesses ready to go, and to attract a demographically balanced population to your community, far away from urban centers.
There are groups like OathKeepers that are preparing for a blow up or Obama/UN takeover.
Buy more guns!!!
In as much as the congress (especially the Senate) have not exercised their job to insure
a budget, It is recommended that all congressmen receive a ten percent reduction in their
pay and if the budget is not forth coming an additional ten percent reduction be imposed.
To help with the reduction of spending, [especially at a time of low income] it would be good if all individuals that receive a Federal Paycheck take a 10 percent cut in pay. Any one old enough to remember the depression will remember that government suffered pay loss. The only ones that I would exempt for this loss of money are those on Medicare that are Seventy Five and over who only have the medicare payment to pay rent and buy food.
WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT CUTTING THE PAY OF THE CONGRESSMEN/
WOMEN ALONG WITH THE PRESIDENT, HIS CABINET AND OTHERS IN VERY HIGH
PAYING POSITIONS.
Carl Mauldin