Fiscal Cliff Negotiations are getting worse
December 19, 2012 at 10:39 am in News by Dustin Siggins 9 Comments

On Sunday, The Washington Post reported that negotiations between Speaker Boehner and President Obama are moving forward. Unfortunately, they are moving in the wrong direction. Here are the highlights, with why they are bad in italics:
House Speaker John A. Boehner has offered to push any fight over the federal debt limit off for a year, a major concession that would deprive Republicans of leverage in the budget battle but is breathing new life into stalled talks over the year-end “fiscal cliff.”
The debt ceiling is a major negotiating point for Republicans with President Obama. It’s the only reason the Budget Control Act (BCA) is in existence. Inadequate though it is, the BCA is the first bipartisan effort to remotely slow the growth of federal spending in years. With another debate over raising the debt ceiling coming in a few months, the Speaker is basically giving away an advantage to the President in future debt discussions.
The White House rejected the offer, saying it would raise too little cash to significantly dent record budget deficits and do nothing to extend emergency unemployments [sic] benefits into the new year, according to a Democrat familiar with the talks.
The unemployment benefits have been long known to be ending. They are not “emergency” spending. This is a subtle form of media bias. Also, this seems to be a new addition to talks from Democrats – unemployment benefits seem to be making more news in recent days and weeks. A tactic to put pressure on Republicans?
Furthermore, no amount of “cash” raised by tax increases is going to dent “record budget deficits.” The President’s wish of $1.6 trillion (now $1.2 trillion) over 10 years will cover less than 4% of expected spending over that same time period. Given the growth of spending since 2000, a 4% cut in future spending – which is expected to go up significantly – isn’t a serious effort at deficit reduction.
“Recognizing the importance of raising tax rates is a big, positive and important step,” said former White House economic adviser Lawrence Summers, who emphasized that he was not speaking for the Obama administration.
“The evaluation of any deal should depend on how much total revenue is raised, whether adequate demand is maintained to sustain the recovery and whether we are restoring confidence or just marking time until another debt-limit crisis,” Summers said.
To answer Summers’ first point, see my last point. Regarding the second point Summers is making, he is dead wrong – the evaluation of a deal should depend on how many dollars are cut from the bloated federal budget in order to help strengthen the economy and prevent more crushing debt from being put on the shoulders of the next generation. How much revenue is raised (AKA how many more tax dollars go to Washington) is not a solution.
In exchange for the higher rates for millionaires, Boehner is demanding changes to federal health and retirement programs, which are projected to be the biggest drivers of future federal borrowing. Boehner wants $1 trillion in total savings, starting with adoption of a less generous way of calculating inflation that would save $200 billion over the next decade — about two-thirds of it by reducing Social Security cost-of-living adjustments.
This is the only semi-good news in the entire article. Health care spending is the biggest problem in the medium and long-term for the federal government, and needs to be significantly reformed. Unfortunately, the Speaker’s efforts are woefully inadequate.
Obama has offered $600 billion in spending cuts, with only $350 billion coming from health programs and none from Social Security. Many congressional Democrats adamantly oppose dragging the program into the year-end talks. [Note: The President has since offered very modest tweaks to Social Security and Medicare as part of a “balanced” approach of over $1 trillion in tax increases and about the same in spending reductions, all over 10 years.]
$1 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years is less than 2.5% of what we are going to spend in that time period. It’s not even a “cut” in spending. It’s a reduction in the growth of spending.
Still, if Republicans make an offer on higher tax revenue that Democrats consider big enough, senior Democrats have signaled that they are open to the change in how inflation is calculated for entitlement programs, known as chained CPI.
In other words, increasing tax rates to make up for Washington’s undisciplined spending habits might be enough to allow bipartisanship on a modest-at-best reform to programs that need drastic change. The biggest thing this does is allow Washington to pretend we have a revenue problem instead of a spending problem.
White House officials last week dropped their tax demand to $1.4 trillion and may be willing to go lower, Democrats said. [Note: On Monday, the President offered to take only $1.2 trillion of your dollars in more taxes, something seen as a big sacrifice by his party.] But setting the income threshold for tax rate hikes at $1 million, as Boehner proposed, would sacrifice too much money, they said. Democrats argue that a threshold of $375,000 or even $500,000 would be more appropriate.
The functioning word above is “sacrifice.” Apparently, not taking more of your hard-earned money is a sacrifice the government makes if it doesn’t raise rates.
As always, the fiscal cliff comes back to two simple realities: We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem, even if Washington doesn’t want to admit it. Second, Washington doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to stick to spending reductions it enacted less than 18 months ago – so why should we trust the new deal would last any longer than the old one?

NO MORE DEBT. NOT FOR ANY REASON.
Make Congress grow up and live within the means the economy can support.
Boehner must be removed as Speaker. Not only is he weak, but he is conceding everything to the Democrats as if he’s a Democrat plant in the Republican Party.
No deals. Show us reduced government spending if you want to even start a conversation. Then, we’ll talk about cutting government spending, and only cutting government spending until there is a plan to obtain a size of government that the economy can reasonably be expected to pay for.
No discussions on taxes and revenue until the size of government is established.
Then, let’s talk about increasing the number of people paying taxes before we discuss raising taxes.
We need leadership that won’t give everything away before the negotiations begin.
It is critical that we replace the Speaker.
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(I’ve seen that on other forums, I think it works here?)
I read an article describing Nancy Pelosi requesting that Boehner move the selection of Speaker for the next Congress up and let the 112th Congress elect the Speaker for the 113th Congress so there would be continuity between the sessions and not cause a disturbance in the negotiations. In the article, it stated that Boehner did this.
So, the reality is, we have Nancy Pelosi selecting the Speaker of the House for us. Of course, she did this to obtain the maximum advantage for the Democrats’ agenda.
People really need to wake up. When Boehner is Nancy Pelosi’s preferred choice for Speaker, we’re really in trouble.
We need a new Speaker. It’s critical Boehner is replaced.
DB,
Boehner controls the House. Nancy can’t make him do it.
Jerry, Nancy Pelosi requested he do that. And, Boehner did it. Apparently Boehner has no problem doing what the Democrats want. The fiscal cliff was what Boehner negotiated for when he gave them what they wanted last time.
So, let it come. The tax increases won’t make a dent in the deficit. The government must get smaller.
NO MORE DEBT. NOT FOR ANY REASON.
Let the government shut down when it runs out of money. That’s what people in Washington fear most. So, make them budget some sanity back into government, or shut the government down when it runs out of money.
The Democrats must understand that they aren’t going to be able to borrow any more money. They have to live within the means the economy provides.
And, if they want more money, make more people pay taxes, rather than raise the taxes of the same people already paying all the income taxes for the entire population.
DB,
That is scary!!
DB – If this is true, Boehner is a dirty Benedict Arnold Traitor! We need new blood to lead the Tea Party. No more career politicians like Boehner and Paul Ryan who only represent the Republican elite.
Boehner and Paul Ryan don’t, and never have lead the Tea Party movement.
Ryan (I think) tried to subvert the movement to enable it to be used to further the Republican Party’s agenda, but that’s not leadership.
ATTENTION EVERYONE!
Enough is Enough! Hidden in the 3,000 page Affordable Care Act, aka OBAMACARE, which the supreme court declared is A TAX, has somehting much more terrrible than the infringement of our liberties that we all know about. Starting in 2014, a small, but morally significant increase in our payroll taxes are going to THE UNITED NATIONS! We are paying a UN TAX, to go to poorer countries to pay for THEIR HEALTHCARE. HE IS TRYING TO USHER IN A WORLD GOVERNMENT, through sneaky tactics like this. WE NEED TO REPEAL OBAMACARE, and STOP THE UN TAX!